jameslk 15 minutes ago

It hasn’t kept up with inflation and the price of hard metal commodities so it’s more like the price keeps going down:

https://www.macrotrends.net/1369/crude-oil-price-history-cha...

https://www.macrotrends.net/1380/gold-to-oil-ratio-historica...

Given the sharp rise in production since 2010, it seems the flat price has more to do with increasing supply and less to do with waning demand:

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/leafhandler.ashx?n=pet&s=m...

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/oil-production-by-country

datadrivenangel 3 hours ago

The whole point of shale is that you can get it going again quickly and piecemeal based on the price of oil. It puts a large plateau/floor on oil at $~60 per barrel which is geopolitically very useful.

  • alephnerd 3 hours ago

    Depends, breaking below $60 per barrel does lead to significant layoffs and it's difficult to rebuild that know-how because knowledge isn't 100% elastic.

    The oil glut itself is largely because of the KSA and Russia in the midst of a mutual price war as well as the US expanding it's own production.

    That said, it's still an open question of whether a glut will exist or not - at this point it's China, India, and Japan that's become the primary driver for oil prices because they are getting similar deals from both KSA and Russia, and are trying to pressure other suppliers to give similar deals.

    • actionfromafar 29 minutes ago

      Easy solution, bomb more Russian oil infrastructure.

      • nradov 24 minutes ago

        Sure, but we should do that anyway regardless of oil prices.

      • alephnerd 20 minutes ago

        1. A significant portion of that infrastructure is in the Russian Far East - especially those that are furnishing the Asian market

        2. Japanese, Chinese, Indian, and South Korean companies and SOEs all have significant stakes and investments in Russia's ONG infrastructure, such as Sakhalin-I (Japan's Mitsui Group and India's ONGC), Sakhalin-II (Korea's KOGAS and Japan's Tohoku Electric), and Power of Siberia (China's CNPC), so any attack on Japanese, Chinese, Indian, or Korean ONG infrastructure in Russia is viewed as a red line by these countries.

        3. Saudi Arabia remains a competitor against Shale, and would continue it's price war against American Shale.

Finnucane 4 hours ago

oh no!

  • lawlessone 3 hours ago

    Won't someone think of the shareholders ;_;

    • rogerrogerr 2 hours ago

      If you are American, it is _exceptionally_ short sighted to think that energy production in your country is not a good thing to have.

      • stouset an hour ago

        See it seems exceptionally short-sighted to me to continue the race to pull as much carbon out of the atmosphere as possible and put it in the air, but what do I know?